Potential Dundas development site under review by city

News Oct 28, 2017 by Craig Campbell Dundas Star News

City of Hamilton staff will bring some concepts to the community for possible development of a 3.8-acre piece of vacant land behind Wentworth Lodge and east of Sherwood Place non-profit seniors apartments.

Edward John, the planner assigned to the property, said he will consolidate comments made by neighbourhood residents at a meeting last Monday evening and bring potential development concepts back to the residents - and perhaps the wider community — and seek more input.

There did not appear to be a clear consensus among more than 40 people at the meeting on what the city should do with the vacant property, one of approximately 2,000 city-owned sites being reviewed by a “development task force.” Although no proposals or applications for the property have been brought to city council, John indicated to residents there are already ideas. But he didn't want to preclude new ideas, useful information  and discussion with the neighbours.

The first update from the task force to the general issues committee since Wentworth Lodge was identified for review eight months ago is due on Nov. 15.

"I didn't want to bring concepts of what will work on the lands ... I certainly have that," he said.

But John and Dundas Coun. Arlene VanderBeek both said no decisions have been made. The city planner said he didn't want to go too far down any one road without community consultation.

"There's so many options of what might happen there," VanderBeek said. "The potential is there for a lot of money or a really good project there."

The task force has a few key objectives: "... maximize strategic outcomes and revenue generation ... facilitate development of affordable housing...promote non-residential tax growth."

John said a vision for the site will be developed by city staff that achieves at least one of those objectives. Whether the property is sold or the city develops it, whatever is done must fulfill that vision, he said.

Several residents at the meeting did express support for seniors housing, either affordable apartments for seniors, similar to Sherwood Place, or additional long-term care spaces like Wentworth Lodge.

But others expressed concerns about adding new housing geared only to seniors, and suggested affordable housing for families could be considered to provide is a range of housing so people can afford to live in Dundas.

Some questioned the idea of the selling the land to a private developer, and prefered the city operating whatever development is built. A seniors centre and co-generational housing were also mentioned by neighbours.

VanderBeek acknowledged to the group the various different ideas and issues that have been raised.

"(We) can't do something that everyone wants," VanderBeek said. "In this room, there are a number of different opinions."

Several were concerned about an increase in density, and related increase in local traffic, and how that would be handled.

"I know the development pressures that have faced Dundas. We have a character in Dundas that needs to be preserved," John said. "I think it's important to re-iterate this is a city-led approach."

One question raised was ownership of a barricaded, unpaved extension of Woodward Avenue along the east side of the vacant property. It's believed to be a city-owned road allowance, but some neighbours think it is privately owned. John said he would investigate the ownership question, and also research the suggestion a natural spring might exist under the property.

Those are factors, he said, that will impact what the land can be used for, and how much of the property can actually be developed.

The land development task force has been directed to update the general issues committee every six months, but there has been no report to committee since Feb. 15, when Wentworth Lodge was identified as one of 10 priority sites to be reviewed. Clerk's department staff said a task force report is due to the Nov. 15 committee meeting.


Potential Dundas development site under review by city

Planning staff considering neighbourhood input for preliminary concepts

News Oct 28, 2017 by Craig Campbell Dundas Star News

City of Hamilton staff will bring some concepts to the community for possible development of a 3.8-acre piece of vacant land behind Wentworth Lodge and east of Sherwood Place non-profit seniors apartments.

Edward John, the planner assigned to the property, said he will consolidate comments made by neighbourhood residents at a meeting last Monday evening and bring potential development concepts back to the residents - and perhaps the wider community — and seek more input.

There did not appear to be a clear consensus among more than 40 people at the meeting on what the city should do with the vacant property, one of approximately 2,000 city-owned sites being reviewed by a “development task force.” Although no proposals or applications for the property have been brought to city council, John indicated to residents there are already ideas. But he didn't want to preclude new ideas, useful information  and discussion with the neighbours.

The first update from the task force to the general issues committee since Wentworth Lodge was identified for review eight months ago is due on Nov. 15.

"I didn't want to bring concepts of what will work on the lands ... I certainly have that," he said.

But John and Dundas Coun. Arlene VanderBeek both said no decisions have been made. The city planner said he didn't want to go too far down any one road without community consultation.

"There's so many options of what might happen there," VanderBeek said. "The potential is there for a lot of money or a really good project there."

The task force has a few key objectives: "... maximize strategic outcomes and revenue generation ... facilitate development of affordable housing...promote non-residential tax growth."

John said a vision for the site will be developed by city staff that achieves at least one of those objectives. Whether the property is sold or the city develops it, whatever is done must fulfill that vision, he said.

Several residents at the meeting did express support for seniors housing, either affordable apartments for seniors, similar to Sherwood Place, or additional long-term care spaces like Wentworth Lodge.

But others expressed concerns about adding new housing geared only to seniors, and suggested affordable housing for families could be considered to provide is a range of housing so people can afford to live in Dundas.

Some questioned the idea of the selling the land to a private developer, and prefered the city operating whatever development is built. A seniors centre and co-generational housing were also mentioned by neighbours.

VanderBeek acknowledged to the group the various different ideas and issues that have been raised.

"(We) can't do something that everyone wants," VanderBeek said. "In this room, there are a number of different opinions."

Several were concerned about an increase in density, and related increase in local traffic, and how that would be handled.

"I know the development pressures that have faced Dundas. We have a character in Dundas that needs to be preserved," John said. "I think it's important to re-iterate this is a city-led approach."

One question raised was ownership of a barricaded, unpaved extension of Woodward Avenue along the east side of the vacant property. It's believed to be a city-owned road allowance, but some neighbours think it is privately owned. John said he would investigate the ownership question, and also research the suggestion a natural spring might exist under the property.

Those are factors, he said, that will impact what the land can be used for, and how much of the property can actually be developed.

The land development task force has been directed to update the general issues committee every six months, but there has been no report to committee since Feb. 15, when Wentworth Lodge was identified as one of 10 priority sites to be reviewed. Clerk's department staff said a task force report is due to the Nov. 15 committee meeting.


Potential Dundas development site under review by city

Planning staff considering neighbourhood input for preliminary concepts

News Oct 28, 2017 by Craig Campbell Dundas Star News

City of Hamilton staff will bring some concepts to the community for possible development of a 3.8-acre piece of vacant land behind Wentworth Lodge and east of Sherwood Place non-profit seniors apartments.

Edward John, the planner assigned to the property, said he will consolidate comments made by neighbourhood residents at a meeting last Monday evening and bring potential development concepts back to the residents - and perhaps the wider community — and seek more input.

There did not appear to be a clear consensus among more than 40 people at the meeting on what the city should do with the vacant property, one of approximately 2,000 city-owned sites being reviewed by a “development task force.” Although no proposals or applications for the property have been brought to city council, John indicated to residents there are already ideas. But he didn't want to preclude new ideas, useful information  and discussion with the neighbours.

The first update from the task force to the general issues committee since Wentworth Lodge was identified for review eight months ago is due on Nov. 15.

"I didn't want to bring concepts of what will work on the lands ... I certainly have that," he said.

But John and Dundas Coun. Arlene VanderBeek both said no decisions have been made. The city planner said he didn't want to go too far down any one road without community consultation.

"There's so many options of what might happen there," VanderBeek said. "The potential is there for a lot of money or a really good project there."

The task force has a few key objectives: "... maximize strategic outcomes and revenue generation ... facilitate development of affordable housing...promote non-residential tax growth."

John said a vision for the site will be developed by city staff that achieves at least one of those objectives. Whether the property is sold or the city develops it, whatever is done must fulfill that vision, he said.

Several residents at the meeting did express support for seniors housing, either affordable apartments for seniors, similar to Sherwood Place, or additional long-term care spaces like Wentworth Lodge.

But others expressed concerns about adding new housing geared only to seniors, and suggested affordable housing for families could be considered to provide is a range of housing so people can afford to live in Dundas.

Some questioned the idea of the selling the land to a private developer, and prefered the city operating whatever development is built. A seniors centre and co-generational housing were also mentioned by neighbours.

VanderBeek acknowledged to the group the various different ideas and issues that have been raised.

"(We) can't do something that everyone wants," VanderBeek said. "In this room, there are a number of different opinions."

Several were concerned about an increase in density, and related increase in local traffic, and how that would be handled.

"I know the development pressures that have faced Dundas. We have a character in Dundas that needs to be preserved," John said. "I think it's important to re-iterate this is a city-led approach."

One question raised was ownership of a barricaded, unpaved extension of Woodward Avenue along the east side of the vacant property. It's believed to be a city-owned road allowance, but some neighbours think it is privately owned. John said he would investigate the ownership question, and also research the suggestion a natural spring might exist under the property.

Those are factors, he said, that will impact what the land can be used for, and how much of the property can actually be developed.

The land development task force has been directed to update the general issues committee every six months, but there has been no report to committee since Feb. 15, when Wentworth Lodge was identified as one of 10 priority sites to be reviewed. Clerk's department staff said a task force report is due to the Nov. 15 committee meeting.